botchagalupe: @daveofdoom @mjasay IBM is (IMHO) still bleeding from all the acquisitions over the last 5 yrs. Even IBM would have a hard time adding SUN 10 minutes ago from web · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @botchagalupe Sun’s got nothing meaningful in the cloud yet. Is this just a media frenzy to make the deal seem attractive? 10 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom …within Sun (MySQL, Java, etc.) would survive. Glassfish? No chance. OpenStorage? Could be a good loss leader for IBM 24 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay I think the culture clash is overblown. I bet Sun would be fine with Apache-style. Plus maybe they would stop CDDL. 19 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @glynmoody Amazon APIs are overwhelmingly the dominant force. Word is Sun got scared of patent threats from AWS so went with CC. 5 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom I would not want to be a Sun employee right now. Though @botchagalupe could be right, and IBM could leave them be for a bit 12 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay Who buys all the Java-based OSS companies if Sun is gone? I don’t see IBM doing it. 22 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom I think more BigCos will see OSS startups as a way to acquire new customers. Sun wasn’t too far off w/ its "adoption" story 20 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: I think IBM cares about MySQL. The rest of the software isn’t meaningful to IBM 23 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet
Instead of our normal Open Sources podcast, Matt Asay and I decided to use Twitter (@daveofdoom and @mjasay) this morning to discuss the news surrounding the rumor that IBM is acquiring Sun.The full transcript is below for your enjoyment.
botchagalupe: @daveofdoom @mjasay 1 of IBM’s acquisition models is to leave the acquired comp alone for a few yrs. My bet is this one will go that way 16 minutes ago from web · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay What do you think about this Sun Cloud nonsense? Just cause they made an announcement, now they’re a cloud provider? 11 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
botchagalupe: @daveofdoom @mjasay of course after they put an IBM’r in charge… 12 minutes ago from web · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom Do you think IBM even cares about Sun’s open source assets? 24 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay How much of Sun staff gets whacked in that deal? IBM is bloated but Sun is over-the-top. 18 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom Mostly, I think this gives Jonathan a reason to stop hewing so hard to the "F" in FOSS.I know MySQL has had a positive influence 11 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay This wraps-up our first Open Sources Twit-cast (I hate that I used that phrase). Thanks to @botchagalupe and @glynmoody 3 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
botchagalupe: @daveofdoom Agree and disagree. They both have not really done anything yet. However, Qlayer and TSAM will have to be reconciled. 9 minutes ago from web · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom Do you think Sun’s OSS fervor would have any impact on IBM’s more buttoned-down, Apache-style approach to OSS? 20 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom re fewer BigCos to acquire OSS startups - yes,but I agree w/ @timoreilly that most will be bought by proprietary vendors, anyway 22 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
Note: the top post is the last one, so you need to read from the bottom up if you want the whole thread.
mjasay: @daveofdoom I do think Sun+IBM has the potential to limit choice, but we’re already well down that path. Real q is whether key OSS bits … 25 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay Without Sun, there is one less large company to acquire open source startups 24 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom I’m not sold on Sun’s cloud strategy, but then, I’m not sold on anyone’s 10 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay @botchagalupe I don’t see how it matters materially in next 3 years. But sooner or later it would have to be meaningful. 4 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
glynmoody: @daveofdoom interesting 4 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
mjasay: @daveofdoom @botchagalupe Will a Sun+IBM combo make any material difference to Microsoft’s dominance in the next 3 years? 7 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
cote: @botchagalupe @daveofdoom @mjasay you guys should put down the Twitter and record a podcast right now. Seriously. You can use my conf line. 4 minutes ago from twitterrific · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation
daveofdoom: @mjasay I think IBM cares about MySQL. The rest of the software is not meaningful to them. 23 minutes ago from TweetDeck · Reply · View Tweet · Show ConversationHide Conversation